Noseriding time
Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 4:43 amHow long can you guys noseride?
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 4:43 amPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 8:00 amdoes runnng straight off the end of your board count? hahahahahaha. i said split second.
Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:47 pmive pulled off a few hang 5's for a few seconds never got 10 piggys over yet though
Re: Noseriding time
Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 6:34 amduhkine wrote:How long can you guys noseride?
Noseriding is a dysfunctional move . . I don't dig it at all.
Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 1:17 pmi got a sneaky little nose ride on my 7ft 6 minimal yesterday .did a bottom turn then straightend up a bit and felt the wave and me losing power so i shuffled up u the board a little bit then a little bit more and some more and just went fo it and found my front foot about 3 inches from the end then i shuffles back to my normal postion ,didnt last long but it did feel good ! 
Re: Noseriding time
Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 1:54 amRoyStewart wrote:duhkine wrote:How long can you guys noseride?
Noseriding is a dysfunctional move . . I don't dig it at all.
Roy, just because you are into your big weird looking boards that are WAY overpriced doesnt mean noseriding is dysfunctional.
Re: Noseriding time
Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 7:20 amgulfsurfer wrote:RoyStewart wrote:duhkine wrote:How long can you guys noseride?
Noseriding is a dysfunctional move . . I don't dig it at all.
Roy, just because you are into your big weird looking boards that are WAY overpriced doesnt mean noseriding is dysfunctional.
True, True, noseriding is dysfunctional regardless of anything I might do . . . . because as you know, "We can't change the laws of physics, Jim"
(The laws of physics determine that noseriding reduces both potential speed and actual control)
Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 10:12 amsurfing isnt all about speed if i wanted speed from a wave i wouldnt ride a longboard
Re: Noseriding time
Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 6:32 pmRoyStewart wrote:
True, True, noseriding is dysfunctional regardless of anything I might do . . . . because as you know, "We can't change the laws of physics, Jim"
(The laws of physics determine that noseriding reduces both potential speed and actual control)
Hmmmm - I have to disagree. I think that noseriding is without doubt one of the finest examples of control of surfboard possible.
Also - the speed that can be achieved on a board is to a large extent dictated by the wave. Having a surfboard that contantly wants to charge way ahead of the curl just doesn;t make sense.
Surfing in total balance and harmony with the wave, with the board in perfect trim means that you are traveling at exactly the same speed as the wave without any need for corrections in weight distribution or stance.
Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 7:01 pm very nicely said jonny ...........Re: Noseriding time
Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 8:34 pm(The laws of physics determine that noseriding reduces both potential speed and actual control)
Jonny, you misunderstand me . . . a bloke who noserides certainly has to exercise control over his board, and this is more difficult to do on the nose. . . . hence my statement that noseriding reduces control. . . sure it takes skill . . but the skill is being used to control the board from a position which does not encourage good control. In short, noseriding is a feat which reduces board control.
The speed which can be achieved on a wave is determined by the thrust/drag ratio achievable by the board/rider, the length of time available for acceleration, and the skill of the rider. The length of time available for acceleration is partly determined by the wave (but not entirely), and the thrust available is also partly (but not entirely) determined by the wave.
A perfect board will have sufficient speed to make any section which it is asked to beat, and also will be able to stall or cut back when required to do so. Having a speed capability does not entail loss of control or an inability to go slow.
My point is that noseriding limits the rider to relatively slow waves and slow sections. . . .I see it all the time . . . a bunch of team riders getting short noserides into oblivion on what they think is a closeout . . when in actual fact the wave is easily makeable when riding a longboard which is designed without sacrificing speed for noseriding demands.
I agree . . . however, while a noserider might look chilled out when on a suitable section, during the course of a wave they spend a lot of time and effort doing exactly the unnecessary corrections in weight distribution and stance which you say is bad! In fact one of the whole points of the longboarding effort is to do as many of these corrections and changes in stance as possible! On a purely functional longboard most of this effort is saved and control is exercised with far less physical action and much more functional results . . . and on top of this the board has more speed available for the inevitable and frequent occasions whenthere is a fast section to beat.
Do you understand what I am saying?
Hmmmm - I have to disagree. I think that noseriding is without doubt one of the finest examples of control of surfboard possible.
Jonny, you misunderstand me . . . a bloke who noserides certainly has to exercise control over his board, and this is more difficult to do on the nose. . . . hence my statement that noseriding reduces control. . . sure it takes skill . . but the skill is being used to control the board from a position which does not encourage good control. In short, noseriding is a feat which reduces board control.
Also - the speed that can be achieved on a board is to a large extent dictated by the wave.
The speed which can be achieved on a wave is determined by the thrust/drag ratio achievable by the board/rider, the length of time available for acceleration, and the skill of the rider. The length of time available for acceleration is partly determined by the wave (but not entirely), and the thrust available is also partly (but not entirely) determined by the wave.
Having a surfboard that contantly wants to charge way ahead of the curl just doesn;t make sense.
A perfect board will have sufficient speed to make any section which it is asked to beat, and also will be able to stall or cut back when required to do so. Having a speed capability does not entail loss of control or an inability to go slow.
My point is that noseriding limits the rider to relatively slow waves and slow sections. . . .I see it all the time . . . a bunch of team riders getting short noserides into oblivion on what they think is a closeout . . when in actual fact the wave is easily makeable when riding a longboard which is designed without sacrificing speed for noseriding demands.
Surfing in total balance and harmony with the wave, with the board in perfect trim means that you are traveling at exactly the same speed as the wave without any need for corrections in weight distribution or stance.
I agree . . . however, while a noserider might look chilled out when on a suitable section, during the course of a wave they spend a lot of time and effort doing exactly the unnecessary corrections in weight distribution and stance which you say is bad! In fact one of the whole points of the longboarding effort is to do as many of these corrections and changes in stance as possible! On a purely functional longboard most of this effort is saved and control is exercised with far less physical action and much more functional results . . . and on top of this the board has more speed available for the inevitable and frequent occasions whenthere is a fast section to beat.
Do you understand what I am saying?
Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 8:37 pmBig Roy knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING.... 
Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 8:44 pmPhil wrote:surfing isnt all about speed if i wanted speed from a wave i wouldnt ride a longboard
Longboards have superior speed capability (compared with shortboards) in many surfing situations . . . . if they are correctly designed for speed.
Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 9:04 pmjesus roy chil with the same old sh*t mate surfing is what you make of it ,im sure you and me had actually this same argument not 1 week ago !!!!! 
Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 9:19 pmk mac wrote:jesus roy chil with the same old sh*t mate surfing is what you make of it ,im sure you and me had actually this same argument not 1 week ago !!!!!
Mate, I am fully chilling. . . .
. . . but don't call me 'Jesus Roy' . .
. . . it's becoming an epidemic.
PS I realise that it's tough on the old noodle to take in new ideas, but always remember that once the mind has expanded it is impossible for it to return to its former size!
Life is full of surprises!
Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 9:25 pmRoy, you piss everyone off, why dont you go find a <edit> tree and make a surfboard out of it, then go save the rainforest you weird <edit>.
Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 9:36 pmgulfsurfer wrote:Roy, you piss everyone off, why dont you go find a tree and make a surfboard out of it, then go save the rainforest you weird .
Chill Brother, It's all good.. . .a polite and frank exchange of ideas . . . . sorry if it bugs you . . . I mistakenly assumed that you were enjoying the discussion.
Catch you some other time then.
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Re: Noseriding time
Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 10:51 pmgulfsurfer wrote:RoyStewart wrote:duhkine wrote:How long can you guys noseride?
Noseriding is a dysfunctional move . . I don't dig it at all.
Roy, just because you are into your big weird looking boards that are WAY overpriced doesnt mean noseriding is dysfunctional.
:D
yea but I bet if you rode 21 ft solid wood guns in two foot surf too you would complain about it also.
Re: Noseriding time
Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 11:13 pmDeathFrog wrote:gulfsurfer wrote:RoyStewart wrote:duhkine wrote:How long can you guys noseride?
Noseriding is a dysfunctional move . . I don't dig it at all.
Roy, just because you are into your big weird looking boards that are WAY overpriced doesnt mean noseriding is dysfunctional.
yea but I bet if you rode 21 ft solid wood guns in two foot surf too you would complain about it also.
lmao
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