Stewart Redline 11 vs CMP

by **Z mann R2** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:48 am

So I'm 6", 162 lbs and have a Robert August what I ride model in 10' poly.

The board feels sluggish and slow turning but rides very stable and let's me on the nose.

But now I'm looking for a more progressive board. I rode a NSP coco mat 9'6 the other day and I caught everything that came my way.

However, I could never bring myself to buy an NSP made from overseas.

Stewart has 2 models I'm curious about. 3 if you include the hydrohull.

Redline 1: says it's the best board he's ever made. Turns like an 8'6 and nose rides like a 10'0. All come in 6' and you adjust the thickness and width to suit you.

CMP: his competition performance longboard. Thinner, more flickable but obviously more paddling?

Does anyone have experience with these guys?

What should I grab?

by **jaffa1949** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:46 am

Got some nice choices there. A thought for you if your centre fin is moveable if you haven't already, move it forward in the fin box this will loosen it up amazingly in turns.
The Redline 11 would be my suggestion for your next board, but see if you can get to try one.
My choice for me on eyeballing alone would be the CMP. No real reasons why not, there either :lol:

by **dtc** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:59 am

Wow, the Redline 11 can get pretty big - suggests over 24 inches wide for me, thats massive.

At 162lb you wont have any issues re size. The thing about longboards is that there are 3 'styles' (there are more, but lets stick with three)

1. cruisers/nose riders - these are long and stable, like your current board. usually these have concaves and fit set ups to really stick the tail into the wave and make it hold.

2. 'performance' boards - these are designed to allow more turning etc, but some people think that trying to surf a longboard like its a short board is just wrong. Usually these boards have quite thin noses and tails and some hard rails (thin/square rails) and more rocker. They are less stable and faster/looser, but they are still a long board, so really paddling shouldnt be all that difficult.

3. 'all rounder' boards. Mostly for these you cant nose ride, or maybe just hang 5, but they are easier to turn than a noserider but more stable than a performance. The NSP board probably falls into this category, as does the Redline. They arent designed for anything specifically but are suitable for most people who want to just surf and dont have a desire to nose ride or be a performance surfer.

so it really comes down to what you want from your board. Not to say you cant to a bit of this and that with each of them; but start off with what you want from your board, then pick your board

At your weight I would actually go for his funboard (funline) - that looks like a really nice board, but still stable and plenty of paddle power. Otherwise the redline looks more user friendly

by **Z mann R2** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:16 pm

Thanks a lot guys, yeah I do have fun shape already but just really bored style surfing. The main thing that I noticed about the NSP was how much lighter n maneuverable it was. My Robert August is poly n heavy. So I definitely want an epoxy of some sort for lightness.

Yeah, the redline is pretty damn wide. He says that you're supposed to have it as wide as you can carry. Not sure why?

Ugh. Decisions.

Well I will let you guys know as soon as I decide.

Oh and I will definitely try to move the fin forward on my Robert August what it feels like.

by **jaffa1949** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:51 am

Z mann R2 wrote:
Yeah, the redline is pretty damn wide. He says that you're supposed to have it as wide as you can carry. Not sure why?

Ugh. Decisions.

Well I will let you guys know as soon as I decide.

Oh and I will definitely try to move the fin forward on my Robert August what it feels like.

Look seriously at the CMP then, or even look at Robert August's other boards.
If you are bored surfing push the envelope of what you are trying to do, go a little crazy in what you attempt, often we are just too conservative :lol:

by **Z mann R2** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:32 pm

Ok here's what I did. I bought the redline 11, but I bought it in the cmp dimensions. Which is thinner and narrower than the stewart website recommends for my height n weight on a Redline. The 9'0 CMP model standard dimensions used these same dimensions (22 5/8 x 2 5/8) so it's kind of a blend of both

I'll report back Friday night and let you know how it does.

by **dtc** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:26 am

Sounds like a great decision - 22 5/8 and 2 5/8 shouldnt cause any issues re paddling, still a pretty big board but will be easier to turn and so forth. Report back!

by **jaffa1949** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:02 pm

Next tip try different positioning of the centre fin , forward for loose, back for stiffness.
Mark the fin box somehow so you can set up accurately each time!
ENJOY :lol:

by **Z mann R2** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:26 am

So I tried the new board today and freaking LOVE it. It turns on a dime and I don't know how but I hung five today no problem. On a board that's nimble and has what seems to be a sort of pintail I am shocked!

I got it in poly so flex was awesome! It's night and day with my Robert August (On my original post I put it was 10', it's not, it's a 9'0 as well). The Robert August just feels fat and heavy and sluggish. I dunno I'm just not happy with it at. I'll try different fin configs but we'll see. Bout to sell her if I can't get it to perform better

But fact of the matter is I LOOOOVE the Stewart Redline 11. I suggest you try one out. He really did an amazing job getting everything you want in a longboard.