Surfing Waves

when youre coming up from your bottom turn(lets say frontside on wave) and you go up for your cutback or spray, should i have my weight more on the heel rails or on the middle of the board, just powering through everything? ive been trying with no success from either(on rail= board doesnt turn fast enough and i lose balance, )(pushing through, on center- hard to manipulate the board fast enough to turn fast)

board- 6'8"long 22.5"wide 2.75"thick

im 5'10", i weigh 165 and i squat 330 so i dont think its cuz im too weak


any advice?

Ok, all you need is speed. Thats the key.
If you can perfect your pop up so that you have a big, quick drop down the face, then you will have enough speed just to angle up the face. As you reach the top, dig you back foot in and retract your front. It's difficult to keep balance at first, but as you progress it wil become easier.

Yep agree that most likely problem is lack of speed. Just keep trying and go for as much speed as possible.
It impossible to say how much you should be leaning into the turn and pressing down on your heels without seeing the turn in person, but bear in mind you're surfing a big board so don't expect to be able to carve really tight arc turns.

if you wanna turn tight and throw spray you need your back foot right back on the pad (over the fins) and you need to push on it as you make the turn.

thanks for all the advice. next time i go out ill work on it and let ya know how it went

Yeah - basically, you need speed, then what you're doing is going to a dead stall by breaking really hard. So, imagine doing a fishtail on a bicycle. To get that really dark skid on the pavement, you need to be going fast and really brake hard, pushing on that rear wheel.

How do you build up all this speed and pull off the bottom turn? I'm getting a hang of my 6"6 and I I want to start doing some short board moves .

You have to work up and down the face. If you notice the pros, they're not going straight, they're actually moving up half a foot, down half a foot, really quickly gaining speed.

Not being that skilled, I usually run up the face a couple feet, down, then quick turn back up, and work that a couple times and you usually will have generated enough speed.

peace dudes, its where you want to do the manouver which is important, once u gain this amount of speed by pumpin u can start 2 learn anyfin, even sum sik airs, riding up the face and then popin off the lip and turnin your head to where you want to land or where you want 2 cannonball lol! peace out dudes x

Broosta wrote:Yep agree that most likely problem is lack of speed. Just keep trying and go for as much speed as possible.
It impossible to say how much you should be leaning into the turn and pressing down on your heels without seeing the turn in person, but bear in mind you're surfing a big board so don't expect to be able to carve really tight arc turns.

yeah, i say get a shorter board, maybe a 6'0"

mar1eylove wrote:when youre coming up from your bottom turn(lets say frontside on wave) and you go up for your cutback or spray, should i have my weight more on the heel rails or on the middle of the board, just powering through everything? ive been trying with no success from either(on rail= board doesnt turn fast enough and i lose balance, )(pushing through, on center- hard to manipulate the board fast enough to turn fast)

board- 6'8"long 22.5"wide 2.75"thick

im 5'10", i weigh 165 and i squat 330 so i dont think its cuz im too weak


any advice?

It dowsnt matter how much you can squat little brother, Ive seen 5' nuthin groms gouge out some pretty thick turns. As for where to weight which part of youre board, well you pretty muvh have to always be changing weight distribution of weight from front to back and side to side. And that 6'8" to you would be a longboard so you have to really work the board to get it to do what you want it to do. Maybe you should go down to a 6'4" if you think youre ready. That swhat I had to do once I knew I couldnt get mw board to do what I knew I could do. Power... wel think of using youre legs as spring boards every time you make a turn. Hope that helps

hi mate

You can still do this maouver on a 6ft 8 but it needs more effeort and more speed.

Drop down the wave into the flat water befoer bottom turning. Now turn hard off the bottom using those big legs of yours. Crouch low now spot where you want to hit up the face.

Keep your eyes on that spot and your board should aim for that spot. As you begin climbing up the face open up your shoulders so that your solarplexus is facing the nose. The next couple of things happen in a split second so its gonna take practice.

As you are about to hit the point you spotted you should turn your head quickly and spot where you want to land. Your weight should be about 80% on your back foot. Now your front foots toes should be lifted off the deck so that your heel is the only thing touching the board this gives your board the ability to flip up onto its rail more thus throwing spray from under your board out the top of the wave. Now throw that trailing arm around at the same time, your arm is heavy and if you leave it trailing behind you the turn will slowed dramatically. Now you should be travelling back down the wave start redistributing your weight to gather momentum back down the face and then prepare for the next one.

This all happens in about 1-2 seconds its case of getting to know your timings and getting your body to remember the different parts as second nature. Eventually yous shouldnt have to think about it.

Bit garbled sorry its hard to explain. But I think the jist is there!!!

Cheers

well if u wanna do em right and good, all u gotto do is move your surfboard , the way you move when you make love. Soft and gentle, but also hard and vigerous. treat her right, let her know u want it as bad as she does. give her a little love tap right on that sweet tight tail of hers, then my friend, and only then, will you be able to conquer her mystic and dangerous beauty

^ i want to watch my happy movies now.

hahaha nice

LovintheSurf wrote:well if u wanna do em right and good, all u gotto do is move your surfboard , the way you move when you make love. Soft and gentle, but also hard and vigerous. treat her right, let her know u want it as bad as she does. give her a little love tap right on that sweet tight tail of hers, then my friend, and only then, will you be able to conquer her mystic and dangerous beauty

^oh, so thats how its done

When I try to do a cutback on my 6'6" the board dosn't seem to even move. I just stall at the top of the wave and it passes me by. Am I too light weighted or not giving enough back foot pressure?

well first of all whats you weight and height. cause it could be ur a little small for the board, and so its diffcult to make it move. If its not a weight issue, it could be your back foot is not placed over the fins. The key thing in doin cutback is your back foot positon, you want it right over the fins. Then the movement is based mostly on moving your back foot....

Could be your timing as well...starting the turn to high on the wave or angling up the wave too much or something.

You really shouldn't have trouble turn the board; just put a lot of pressure on your back foot (over the fins). Really push down on it and torque you upper body around, and if you put too much pressure on it and whip the board around and fall off at least your getting a better idea of how to turn it.
And remember every move starts with speed...

well I weigh about 110 lbs and I'm 5'7". Anyway how do you pump to build up the speed on those small waves since maybe thats one of the reasons my board isn't budging. Today if I go surfing I'll try to do a cutback... hopfully