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duck diving a fish?

PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 8:27 pm
by joe1300a
hey ive bin surfing a 6 10 short board for around 7 months now and can happly cach unbroken waves bottom turn an surf down the line, but i wanted to get rid of my unloved bic and buy something i can treasure, i got a 6'3 fish/thruster qaud with lok box speed dialler set up fins due to the frequency of the mushy waves, ive bin having a look around and have suddenly thought, am i going to be able to duck dive this? im 6' 1 and weigh around 11 stone , advice anyone? is there any other way to get out back? cheers

Re: duck diving a fish?

PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 8:37 pm
by surfitch
how wide/thick is it? if you find you can't duck dive it just opt for the channel route. the longer distance should be made up by the paddling ease the bigger volume gets you. i hate seeing people turtle/eskimo roll at my break when it's hollow.

Re: duck diving a fish?

PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 8:41 pm
by joe1300a
its 6'3 x 22" x 3, chees

Re: duck diving a fish?

PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 4:31 am
by IB_Surfer
Not easy to duckdive, but if it's big and hollow you wouldn't use a fish anyway. I've used it in overhead surf, even bigger if there are channels or mushy. The board won't duckdive more than like a half a foot, but it's enough to get under most normal surf.

You should buy a cheap step-up for bigger days, maybe the same size as the one you had before or slightly shorter but thinner or narrower to help with duckdiving

Re: duck diving a fish?

PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 5:32 am
by Aloha
joe1300a wrote:its 6'3 x 22" x 3, chees


Wow that's a cork! :shock: I'd be doing the splits trying to sit on that. :lol:

Could you duck dive the other board?

Yep I reckon it's 'duck-dive-able' ... but because it's wide, fat and shortish you'll have more of a fight keeping the rails down when duck diving. What I mean is it will have a tendency to fight you on it's roll axis (side to side). Duck diving is all about the pitch axis (sinking the nose and tail) if your board is short, fat and wide you won't only be fighting the pitch axis, you'll be fighting the roll axis too.

A board with the same volume but longer would be easier to duck dive. With yours there's more volume per square inch of board so it's concentrated, this means the places you push down on (with your hands and feet) will resist more.

To be frank, in my opinion this board is a shortboard designed for a very heavy guy. Not for a light guy who wants a shorter board but refuses to sacrifice volume. If you find you need more volume then go longer.

This type of board, if you don't keep it level in a dive, the slightest deviation will likely mean you'll lose control over it. If you start to lose it on any axis, the wave will get hold of it and throw you off.

I've found short corky boards really tiring to get 'out the back' on. They bounce around on top of the white wash and roll about. A high aspect ratio board, that barely floats, just cuts through that stuff like a knife and doesn't get knocked about; although more muscle power is required to paddle out, the ordeal is over quicker; whereas a corky board is easy to paddle but will take longer to get you out the back on, if there are a lot of waves coming through.

Still don't let this get you down, it's only my opinion and surfing isn't only about duck dives. :D

Re: duck diving a fish?

PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 3:17 pm
by joe1300a
awsome cheers guys, ive got a 6'2 thruster for those bigger days coz its very taty n lots of nasty looking repairs so dont really care if it gets snapped or damaged, if anyone else has any more advice it would be appreciated, thanks

Re: duck diving a fish?

PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 9:11 pm
by SSSurfer
What the **** is a stone? Sorry. I know pounds and to some extent I can figure out kilos. But stones? lol

Re: duck diving a fish?

PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 9:09 pm
by joe1300a
14 pounds to a stone mate.

Re: duck diving a fish?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:17 pm
by zangpakto
Wasn't it 12 pounds to a stone? Or is that only inches?

Damn I get confused... why don't you people use kg and cm when measuring X_X

Also as this is about duck diving, try turn one rail first under the water then the other, makes it a LOT easier for thicker boards.

Ok, mine isn't as thick as yours, but as shortboards go, it is very thick.

Re: duck diving a fish?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:08 am
by donhoe
SSSurfer wrote:What the **** is a stone? Sorry. I know pounds and to some extent I can figure out kilos. But stones? lol


A Stone is a Rock. Stones can also be found in a kidney :lol:

As far as Duck diving a fish goes, A fish swims under water anyway, no need for diving. :lol:

It's late, I'm just having some fun.