line up problems

[scsurfer481]

two days ago while out for a surf i had waited my turn and i got on my wave then a longboarder blasted infront of me when i was on it it was deffinatly my right of way. i cant do anything to persuade a huge guy but it pissed me off. so should i wait or is it out of style to wait turns in the line up. and can us shortboarders drop in on long boarders with a gap of like thirty feet

[pkbum]

Go to that longboarder and give him a good beating.

Nah, what else are you gonna do? Just look for another wave and forget the past.

[drowningbitbybit]

can us shortboarders drop in on long boarders with a gap of like thirty feet

Drop in? No. Not even to some evil scum longboarder

if its your wave, then stick with it. But the chances are that if you're surfing a shortboard at a longboarder's break, then you'll always struggle to get on the wave before Phil - sorry, longboarders - gets on it.

Find a peak to yourself is usually the answer.

[scsurfer481]

yeah i know to forget about it it just is tough with somany long boarders in santacruz surfing to get any waves

[pkbum]

Try surfing at malibu, it'll give you headaches. Its so crowded that everybody decided to snake and drop in on everybody.

[the.ronin]

Go to that longboarder and give him a good beating.

Nah, what else are you gonna do? Just look for another wave and forget the past.

x2

Just whatever you do, don't start dropping in like that kook.

[CHarvey]

I have noticed that this occurs a lot more where I am surfing now. Seems the better the surfer is the less he cares who he drops in on. What I have seen and done is whistle or shout at them. Best if done before they drop in. But at least if they do drop in on you and you let them know you are there they should hopefully hop off the wave. If they don't the next time you see them in the line up thank them for joining you on the wave. One of my fav things to do is right before they are about to drop in if you can hit the lip and spray them in the face. Just make sure you can do this without hitting them.

[garbarrage]

If they don't the next time you see them in the line up thank them for joining you on the wave.

subtle but good... top marks. say its pretty effective too!!!

[the.ronin]

Although there have been many times where I would be at the most prime spot one can be at for an incoming peak. But before I can even begin to paddle for it, a longboarder will have already caught it and be riding the shoulder?! Freakiest thing. I’ll launch anyway since, technically, I had the right of way and I’ll just be cruising up behind him. Funny stuff.

Then there are those times when you’re hydroplaning and it turns out there’s already a longboarder cruising along. Then he offers the supreme gesture of surfing and waves you on to come join him. You pop up and it becomes a little party wave.

Point being, it’s an awful lot of fun to surf with longboarders that understand and respect the lifestyle.

Like I mentioned in another thread though, I miss the days when everybody started out on a shortboard – maybe not a potato chip Al Merrick, but a shortboard nonetheless – and *earned* their way to a longboard. The older dudes would sit way way way out there on their huge barges and call out incoming waves and sets. Once the shortboarders got their fill, they would take the last set in ... classic times.

[garbarrage]

gonna re-attempt shortboarding again this weekend if i can find a wave....
got a really good deal on a 7' spider...
anticipating aching arms, fast drops and eating waves... in short a lot of fun!
let ya know how i get on.

[Surfing-Innovation]

I have to say that I ALWAYS try to allow a fair share of waves to go past me if there's some shortboarders on the inside - same as I always try my best to 'take my turn' in the line up. And if I happen to find a guy who prefers to go right when I prefer left, then I make my intentions clear as I paddle, so we can share the wave without getting in each others way

But I will also make no bones about calling someone off a wave if they try to drop in on me - after all, fair is fair.....

From a longboarder's point of view, there's nothing worse than a shortboarder paddling on the exact bit of wave you're hoping to ride, especially as the onus then really sits on your shoulders to avoid him as you're the one more in control of your direction.

But I can understand that shortboarders would be REALLY pissed off if they never got any waves left for them.....

[garbarrage]

even with all the good intentions there's always gonna be the odd twat out there hoggin waves... sure i've been guilty of it myself in the past if i've had a long stint out of the water, but that will usually pass after i've had a couple... tend to sit back a bit.
nothing more frustrating tho than surfing a longboard break and letting perfect waves go by... then watching 10 guys on toothpicks all try and fail to catch them. forgivable in the summer when the waves are small but in season when more suitable waves are working it can get a bit annoying.

[isaluteyou]

Ya dropping in is a no no regardless. Only time ive fel like a total plum was when i dropped in on the same guy twice in one session did it by accident mind you. But still i said my appologies.

It also gets so much harder when theres a crowd as etiquette usually goes out the window. I sometimes might sit a little further out and anticipate the wave and start paddling earlier in such situations.

I also make a jugment call sometimes if i can blatantly see the guy who has taken off further down the line is just not gonna make the section i might consider taking off.

I think in ultra crowded situations the best thing to do is make your presence known and also that you arnt a push over. You dont have to be agressive about or use dodgy tatics. That said you cant do anything about some moron who doesnt care

[Beachbum]

Like I mentioned in another thread though, I miss the days when everybody started out on a shortboard – maybe not a potato chip Al Merrick, but a shortboard nonetheless – and *earned* their way to a longboard. The older dudes would sit way way way out there on their huge barges and call out incoming waves and sets. Once the shortboarders got their fill, they would take the last set in ... classic times.

I wish it was like that now a days . You may find those "classic uncles" once in a while which makes a great atmosphere for your session.

[TReMoR]

haha maybe its because im not a good surfer... but i dont get what the big deal is of getting dropped in on... i dont think its worth beating someone over.

[drowningbitbybit]

haha maybe its because im not a good surfer... but i dont get what the big deal is of getting dropped in on... i dont think its worth beating someone over.

Okay, so you're not up and riding on a good clean green face yet... now imagine that day that it all comes together - you paddle early, you catch the wave, you pop up perfectly, you turn onto the face, look down the line...




...and some utter f^ckwit drops right in front of you

Wouldnt you be p1ssed off?

Everyone does it occasionally, but if its intentional or repeated then they deserve a quiet word.

[Tenaciousgreen]

Then there are those times when you’re hydroplaning and it turns out there’s already a longboarder cruising along. Then he offers the supreme gesture of surfing and waves you on to come join him. You pop up and it becomes a little party wave.

Point being, it’s an awful lot of fun to surf with longboarders that understand and respect the lifestyle.

How true this is! Not being a great surfer I always feel somewhat pleased to see some of the regular old longboarders out in the line up. The're presence tends to calm the place down and they alway's say G'day.

One day nice but small day I took off on a right (regular stance) and failed to notice the longboarder charging behind me. I caught a glimpse just as i popped up and immediately pulled off the way to let him by. He rode it virtually all the way in. He paddled back out straight up to me and said "There was plenty of space for both of us on that baby".

We can all learn a lot from these guys!

[the.ronin]

I was thinking about this over the weekend since I was getting dropped in on by longboarders like nobody’s business. Granted, it was really crappy surf so I didn’t really care. Still, for most of those times, the guy would make a point to apologize and I would literally smile and laugh and tell him no worries. But then there was one guy who not only saw me coming as he was popping up, he looked right at me afterwards and didn’t say a word. Dude I was pissed.

Point being, if you do end up dropping in, just make a point to apologize. It could make a huge difference.

Heck, I was a peak with one guy and it was clearly going to break both ways. I took left thinking he would go right but he bottom turned and went left. I still apologized to him and he just laughed and said he had no idea where he was going.

I also agree ... make some noise coming in or call out your direction before you launch. I need to get back into that habit. I remember one guy that used to make this high pitched “yip yip yip!!” noise as he came booking down the line. It was the wierdest friggin noise ever but it definitely got your attention haha!!

P.S. There was one chick longboarder (all were longboarders) who took forever to get up and by the time she did, I was coming in full tilt. As much as I tried to veer away, my board crashed into hers. She profusely apologized but just seeing my brand spanking new white MX on top of her barney longboard got me so pissed. It took all the strength to muster out a “don’t worry about it” as I frantically searched for dings.

P.P.S. No dings haha.

[crepuscular]

I got dropped in when I was just about to pop up, made a HUGE crack on my firewire...

the faggot called me a xxxxx xxxxx who can't surf for crap, yet got a firewire... I was full on furious @ him, just because he's a better surfer than me doesn't mean he's always right, what a faggot...

It's like driving... if an accident happens to a provisional driver, people just automatically assumes it's the provisional's fault since they arent as experience... what sorta xxxxx logic is that...

[pkbum]

I got dropped in when I was just about to pop up, made a HUGE crack on my firewire...

the faggot called me a xxxxx xxxxx who can't surf for crap, yet got a firewire... I was full on furious @ him, just because he's a better surfer than me doesn't mean he's always right, what a faggot...

It's like driving... if an accident happens to a provisional driver, people just automatically assumes it's the provisional's fault since they arent as experience... what sorta xxxxx logic is that...

dude take a chill pill and relax, shit1 happens in life and the best thing you can do is beat the shit1 out of him.

lol