I'm a special case. need advise

[Big H]

A big part of my learning experience had to do with learning about the ocean, currents, waves, tides, where the wave would break, getting caught inside, getting out back, positioning, timing, ease in the water (as opposed to panic).....etc......your years of experience in the water prior to your surfing career should not be discounted; as we all know those things learned are all really important. It took me a couple of weeks just to get the nerve to paddle all the way out back (break I started off on "out back" is 250m from shore with a longshore current that is noticeable......I was afraid (rightly so) that I was going to end up in China with my weak paddling and lack of stamina.......heck, it took me a couple of sessions just to learn to sit on the board in afternoon chop without falling off and then to turn the board around while sitting on it using my legs.....so much to learn!

[dtc]

Pro Skateboarder Elissa Steam on learning to surf

“Surfing was scary,” was the first thing she told me. This from a woman who gleefully hucked herself over all kinds of concrete doom throughout her career. “I remember thinking at first that, OK, paddling is hard, but once I stand up on this thing it’s on. But it wasn’t like that at all. Most of the pro skater friends I know who tried surfing got frustrated and quit.”

[DreamSurf]

I made a decision and compromised a lot. So yall say 9 feet. I took a 7.4 feet 50 liters shortboard im 5.8 and 77 a 80 kilo. I will train untill 75 kilo and start with the 7.4 shortboard. If i manage to master the art with it. Which is gonna take a while according to some and many then i will start at 5.11 a 6.0 32L.

I ordered them both. The small one will collect dust i know. But i just have to have it in case i fully master. Meanwhile i lisened to u guys and decided to get some friends in the surf world. To watch eachother when xxxxx goes wrong in the ocean.

Im being very consequent and i hope in the future to meet u guys. But for now thats where i will start. 7.4. This is possible according to my local shop. 6.0 is a bridge to far according to many.

So what do u guys think of this compromis ? Honestly

[Big H]

Analogy: It has been said here before that trying to learn with a board too short is like trying to learn to ride a bike without enough air in the tires....it is hard enough already, why make it even harder? After you learn the basics of balancing and pedalling, then you can upgrade to a bike that suits your style, a mountain bike, a city cruiser, something more racy, a bmx perhaps.....

7.4" with your experience, weight and age will be harder to learn on than a longboard of 9'. It will be easier to learn on than a shortboard of 32L. Put the time and effort in, learn etiquette and surf as much as possible! Good times!

[icetime]

Surfing isn't as easy as it looks from the beach or in videos, it will take you a very long time to get a hang of it, especially with that little volume, I hope you're shredded and well built or else you're going to tear apart your back every session Other than that, as much as you're stubborn to go for a shortboard as a starting board, I hope you're not planning to learn at a jacking reef break, go to a beginner friendly beach break and get yourself a few surf lessons, it'll pay off in the long run.

[DreamSurf]

The 7.4 is actually 55l
The 6.0is 32l

I will start with a 7.4

I dont do easy. I do the possible.
6.0 is the impossible obviously.

Wish me luck.

[DreamSurf]

Surfing isn't as easy as it looks from the beach or in videos, it will take you a very long time to get a hang of it, especially with that little volume, I hope you're shredded and well built or else you're going to tear apart your back every session Other than that, as much as you're stubborn to go for a shortboard as a starting board, I hope you're not planning to learn at a jacking reef break, go to a beginner friendly beach break and get yourself a few surf lessons, it'll pay off in the long run.

Sidi mghit has a ratio 0.2 m waves and the max is 2.5 which is in the deep. U can vary between 0.2 to 0.5 in the beginning. There are no rocks and dangerous obstacles. It is a plain clear beach. The only fishes swimming there are dolphins and the friendly ones. U know if i get that better i might invite y'all. Its all good.

I know im stubborn. But im familiar with this pattern. My friends used to say ill never do a 15 stairs switch kickflip and i did. I even went with no sponsor to munchen germany paid my own subscription. And took the quarter final. My friends were hoping me to fail(so called friends).

In the snowboard world everybody urged me to take lessons and i was like. F that. And so i went down. Yes i felt. But i was faster then the instructors lesson agenda and ended up board sliding and backflipping. Airs were easy cause you are attached to the board.

As for surfing it is the first time i take people seriously over advise. Cause its more then surfing. Its ocean. The sunrise and fall. When the water comes in and when it goes and sucks you in the deep. The obstacles the waves the way they go. The safety cause you dont know literally what it is going to do with you.

That is why im sincere. But i didnt want to go longboard. And i didnt want to choose an advanced board cause all the advices u guys gave me made sense. And i took a bit from it and i took a bit from my willpower and stubbornity. So 6.0 versus longboard 9.0. I went for a shortboard 7.4.

I can do that.

Ill make a photo as soon as i have them both together

[DreamSurf]

Analogy: It has been said here before that trying to learn with a board too short is like trying to learn to ride a bike without enough air in the tires....it is hard enough already, why make it even harder? After you learn the basics of balancing and pedalling, then you can upgrade to a bike that suits your style, a mountain bike, a city cruiser, something more racy, a bmx perhaps.....

7.4" with your experience, weight and age will be harder to learn on than a longboard of 9'. It will be easier to learn on than a shortboard of 32L. Put the time and effort in, learn etiquette and surf as much as possible! Good times!

at the very last from the same series before i hit pay on paypl i decided to go for 7.6. 65L so your advice has driven me nuts LOL
i am very happy tho




and guess what its not a shotboard but an all round board with some concave and thruster fins



this i also bought as my next step
second hand

5.11 32L


but this one is for laaaaaaaaaaater.

im trying man. ill hyped.

[oldmansurfer]

The 7'6" will be easier than a shortboard. Now all that matters is hearing how you did. I wish you luck. Sounds like you have the determination. I am determined also and always stoked

[DreamSurf]

Pro Skateboarder Elissa Steam on learning to surf

“Surfing was scary,” was the first thing she told me. This from a woman who gleefully hucked herself over all kinds of concrete doom throughout her career. “I remember thinking at first that, OK, paddling is hard, but once I stand up on this thing it’s on. But it wasn’t like that at all. Most of the pro skater friends I know who tried surfing got frustrated and quit.”

elissa steamer is not exactly a high profile skateboarder. you got girls like louisa menke and some top boarders and im sure they would do better. elissa at her time was allready struggling. in the woman division she was good but her runs and lines always exist of the same tricks from a different platform

you need character for this stuff. you will enjoy surfing even if you fall a lot. there is a lesson in that. paddling more. diving in the wave together with your board. you dont even have to take away. you could bodyboard with a surfboard and start to feel familiar with the board. my guess is they want to stand on the board and in the process they ignore the basics. you see that in skateboarding as well. people trying a kickflip that cant even drive properly.

i never surfed and i can tell in any sport and the desk managers may think its not. but it requires a lot of inteligence and research.
elissa steamer is probably now in the 40.s im betting she wanted to go carving just like she skated. just guessing.

[icetime]

The baord you bought looks good to start with, for the 2nd hand board, I don't see why you bought it so soon, maybe in the future you'll want something different

[DreamSurf]

The baord you bought looks good to start with, for the 2nd hand board, I don't see why you bought it so soon, maybe in the future you'll want something different

it has to do with my personality.

when playing games. playing oblivion while skyrim is on the desk
skateboarding on an Enjoi skateboard while having the next board on the wall.
learning french and having the next step level that im looking forward to.
doing a heelflip next to a stair but not over the stair. but looking at it everyday untill i really decide to.

you have to look up to something.

by the way i see your from morocco. where do you surf? i knew some machado clone dude from sidi slimane next to casablanca he used to surf with a broken board. a thruster that missed one fin LOL. and let me tell u he was bad ess good. really good. he had this hair like the young machado afro style perhaps u know him. he lives in some ghetto and he used to come to assilah where i live

[jaffa1949]

SHORT BOARD IT CAN BE DONE1 Go do it and keep us informed, you have a great deal of grit so go for it!
Nobody asked you , are you a good swimmer?
I saw your post about drowning and the quality of your parenting, so I believe you probably swim OK.
Take some time and learn to read the beach and surf, where the rips are what set waves are like and where they are.
Learn to body surf! That is the shortest lowest volume board and will give you great insight into the surf! Great fun with your kids too!
Do not depend on you leash as a lifesaving device.

ENJOY THOROUGHL\Y

[waikikikichan]

I was wondering how you we're getting all this sizing for shortboards, not ever having ridden a board before. It couldn't have been just from reading the forum or searching the net. THEN i realized you got the sizing from the boards the characters you choose on Kelly Slater Pro Surfer use. Am I correct ?

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Oh, and make sure you bring that 5'11" to the surf lesson with you. Maybe show up early, and go paddle out and see how you do. It'll prove to yourself if what you thought was true. Then later after your lesson, you can try it again. If it doesn't work out, put it some place in the house where you pass by everyday. It can be you goal, the thing that inspires you to get better.

From the movie "NORTH SHORE"
Rick - "i want to ride this one"
Chandler - " YOU, are not ready for a board like that"
Rick - "well, when will I be ready?"
Chandler - "After you've mastered all the other one first" ( pointing to the collection of boards in the shed )

[dtc]

elissa steamer is not exactly a high profile skateboarder. you got girls like louisa menke and some top boarders and im sure they would do better. elissa at her time was allready struggling. in the woman division she was good but her runs and lines always exist of the same tricks from a different platform

I dont know, first ever female pro skateboarder seems to be a reasonably good analogy to any skater claiming it helps learning to surf.

Learning on a shortboard is not a 'character' issue. Making something harder than it needs to be is fine when you already have skills - its a challenge; but right at the start of the process its a different issue

Anyway, please provide some feedback on how you go

[DreamSurf]

I was wondering how you we're getting all this sizing for shortboards, not ever having ridden a board before. It couldn't have been just from reading the forum or searching the net. THEN i realized you got the sizing from the boards the characters you choose on Kelly Slater Pro Surfer use. Am I correct ?

471892-kelly-slater-s-pro-surfer-playstation-2-screenshot-board-selection.png

Oh, and make sure you bring that 5'11" to the surf lesson with you. Maybe show up early, and go paddle out and see how you do. It'll prove to yourself if what you thought was true. Then later after your lesson, you can try it again. If it doesn't work out, put it some place in the house where you pass by everyday. It can be you goal, the thing that inspires you to get better.

From the movie "NORTH SHORE"
Rick - "i want to ride this one"
Chandler - " YOU, are not ready for a board like that"
Rick - "well, when will I be ready?"
Chandler - "After you've mastered all the other one first" ( pointing to the collection of boards in the shed )

i take influence from all different mediums. the game has 100 procent influence on my hype. but has no influence which board.
the 5.11 target is because it is said that the shortboard is one handpalm bigger then the person. but from what i see in videos there are people who even have shorter or way bigger. im happy there is no define rule. so the handpalm rule isnt THE RULE. i dont regret the purchase but ultimately if i would be able to board 5.11 and when it breaks i would transition to 6.0 or 6.1. but u know its just trying to anticipate and foretell what im going to do and what my goals are. its a rough estimate lets keep it at that.

concerning the game.
it hasnt been the first time i would go mental because of a game. because of california games and some skate movies like trashing.
and you know there was this hot latina. yeah i was 6. but a mans gotta be man. and as a six years old this 18 year old latina showed me how to skateboard. i had a penny greenboard with a spider at the time.

this surf deal is a big one as well. i am just psyched. youll find me living in the ocean. might as well give me that kevin costner water world thing behind his ears and breath under water LOL.

the actual reason to me i think is because as a skateboarder i skateboard 7.75 and 8.0 with medium trucks. i skate veeeeeeeeery loose. my friends cant skate on my board. they will make wheelbite(board touching wheels) when i do 360 flip it is based on full pressure and when i land them it is based on calmness. when others ollie and land on my board they shake like doin a salsa. also these attributes of small board and fast and loose has had its way to my surfing ideas. ofcourse we dont know how that will turn out. its an idea estimate or let us say a guess. but i dare to challenge and say that im not guessing. i wont be doing it day one airing.

But i will.

amen

[DreamSurf]

elissa steamer is not exactly a high profile skateboarder. you got girls like louisa menke and some top boarders and im sure they would do better. elissa at her time was allready struggling. in the woman division she was good but her runs and lines always exist of the same tricks from a different platform

I dont know, first ever female pro skateboarder seems to be a reasonably good analogy to any skater claiming it helps learning to surf.

Learning on a shortboard is not a 'character' issue. Making something harder than it needs to be is fine when you already have skills - its a challenge; but right at the start of the process its a different issue

Anyway, please provide some feedback on how you go

i will provide as soon as im able. the 5.11 has arrived. but i wait shipment for the green one/ once taht is settled im going to take some time off and surf.

[icetime]

The baord you bought looks good to start with, for the 2nd hand board, I don't see why you bought it so soon, maybe in the future you'll want something different

it has to do with my personality.

when playing games. playing oblivion while skyrim is on the desk
skateboarding on an Enjoi skateboard while having the next board on the wall.
learning french and having the next step level that im looking forward to.
doing a heelflip next to a stair but not over the stair. but looking at it everyday untill i really decide to.

you have to look up to something.

by the way i see your from morocco. where do you surf? i knew some machado clone dude from sidi slimane next to casablanca he used to surf with a broken board. a thruster that missed one fin LOL. and let me tell u he was bad ess good. really good. he had this hair like the young machado afro style perhaps u know him. he lives in some ghetto and he used to come to assilah where i live

I surf at my local break at Ain Diab in casablanca, due to the swell it's not holding up so well, currents are messy, overall a dangerous place now, I'm spending the rest of the week surfing at la bobine in dar bouazza which is a rocky break, the best left in the country is what they call it, as a goofy footer, I'm in a for treat, some characteristics are, you need good timing to jump off the rocks and paddle for your life, watch out for the pointy starfish that are basically balls of spikes that are everywhere and that's pretty much it, it's going to be my first session tomorrow morning at 8:30 since it's a low tide only spot some say when it gets over 4ft it starts to barrel at the end section, I guess I'll find out tomorrow
I don't know that guy sadly, can't seem to know anyone that looks like that.

[DreamSurf]

The baord you bought looks good to start with, for the 2nd hand board, I don't see why you bought it so soon, maybe in the future you'll want something different

it has to do with my personality.

when playing games. playing oblivion while skyrim is on the desk
skateboarding on an Enjoi skateboard while having the next board on the wall.
learning french and having the next step level that im looking forward to.
doing a heelflip next to a stair but not over the stair. but looking at it everyday untill i really decide to.

you have to look up to something.

by the way i see your from morocco. where do you surf? i knew some machado clone dude from sidi slimane next to casablanca he used to surf with a broken board. a thruster that missed one fin LOL. and let me tell u he was bad ess good. really good. he had this hair like the young machado afro style perhaps u know him. he lives in some ghetto and he used to come to assilah where i live

I surf at my local break at Ain Diab in casablanca, due to the swell it's not holding up so well, currents are messy, overall a dangerous place now, I'm spending the rest of the week surfing at la bobine in dar bouazza which is a rocky break, the best left in the country is what they call it, as a goofy footer, I'm in a for treat, some characteristics are, you need good timing to jump off the rocks and paddle for your life, watch out for the pointy starfish that are basically balls of spikes that are everywhere and that's pretty much it, it's going to be my first session tomorrow morning at 8:30 since it's a low tide only spot some say when it gets over 4ft it starts to barrel at the end section, I guess I'll find out tomorrow
I don't know that guy sadly, can't seem to know anyone that looks like that.

you should come over to assillah . casablanca is overcrowded. when you come over here you can go to dead villages where almost no one lives. you could walk naked over the beach no man walking over ther seeying you. and the sleeping is cheap to.

man man man i live in a shizzy place at the moment(belgium holland). you guys are surfing back to back need to go back to my original country(morocco). benelux is a dead place. you will survive with a skimboard but as a surfer it is a life of depression. i allready downloaded a world map so i can place dots where to go. there is no one that is going to hold me. not even my job im deadly serious. im pissed off.

[Oldie]

man man man i live in a shizzy place at the moment(belgium holland). you guys are surfing back to back need to go back to my original country(morocco). benelux is a dead place. you will survive with a skimboard but as a surfer it is a life of depression.

The North Sea is not good, too shallow and the UK is in the way (as so often ) and Waves will almost always require some kind of onshore wind. So no comparison to the European or African Atlantic or some of the truly great destinations like Indo.

But you can learn to surf there. Belgium and the South of Nethlerlands are very often flat, but Scheveningen and Wijk can have acceptable days. And in both locations you can rent very decent equipment, so you can get just get started, no need to wait for any shipment. Next Sunday may be one of those days I go myself. Hart Beach and Aloha in Scheveningen have good teachers, too. Check MSW, read surfveer, look at the webcams and you will find enough days to get started.