I'm a special case. need advise

[waikikikichan]

pro shortboarder haha LOL. u guys must be laughing you esses of special case

So you are not a "special case". You finally realized YOU are JUST LIKE every skateboarder and snowboarder that thinks just because they can stand up on a board ( with wheels on concrete or sliding down on snow ) that then they can surf.

Probably you are the only one on this forum that has the ability to lay prone on a 31 inch long by 10 inch skateboard and pop up to your feet without touching the ground. Yet you couldn't pop up on a 90 inch long by 21 inch wide board.

You thought their advice was being mean or condescending, but now do you realize they're concern for you ? We all knew exactly what was going to happen on your first day even without seeing the video.

You said for the Haters to stop hating and ignored the trolls. Everyone here on this forum were trying to best to help, but you were in your own world. You were like a person on the train saying " I'm the Queen of England !". Some people might ignore you but others might speak up, "Hey, no your not, you're just a regular person." What ever reasoning they tried to give you, you would have no part of it. You even called me out saying to "not hate, participate". So I believed in you, gave you advice on how to turn trusting you that you'd be riding like a "BOSS" on the first day. Instead of laughing at you, I said "here you go, your Majesty, this way your Majesty". But now the veil is off, you've come to your senses and realized you're just like everyone else.

Maybe you should go back and read what you said to people, to all the "haters and trolls". Were they right ? Maybe you should apologize or at least thank them individually for trying to help.

[DreamSurf]

pro shortboarder haha LOL. u guys must be laughing you esses of special case

So you are not a "special case". You finally realized YOU are JUST LIKE every skateboarder and snowboarder that thinks just because they can stand up on a board ( with wheels on concrete or sliding down on snow ) that then they can surf.

Probably you are the only one on this forum that has the ability to lay prone on a 31 inch long by 10 inch skateboard and pop up to your feet without touching the ground. Yet you couldn't pop up on a 90 inch long by 21 inch wide board.

You thought their advice was being mean or condescending, but now do you realize they're concern for you ? We all knew exactly what was going to happen on your first day even without seeing the video.

You said for the Haters to stop hating and ignored the trolls. Everyone here on this forum were trying to best to help, but you were in your own world. You were like a person on the train saying " I'm the Queen of England !". Some people might ignore you but others might speak up, "Hey, no your not, you're just a regular person." What ever reasoning they tried to give you, you would have no part of it. You even called me out saying to "not hate, participate". So I believed in you, gave you advice on how to turn trusting you that you'd be riding like a "BOSS" on the first day. Instead of laughing at you, I said "here you go, your Majesty, this way your Majesty". But now the veil is off, you've come to your senses and realized you're just like everyone else.

Maybe you should go back and read what you said to people, to all the "haters and trolls". Were they right ? Maybe you should apologize or at least thank them individually for trying to help.

Wow. Whatsup bro. Why apologise. And why so offensive LOL. Ive said a lot of things. IMO it is really great how it went. I am the example of the many who probably thought skating is on par with surfing and underestimated it. It is not like stanfing up from a skateboard in laying down condition. I never personally offenden someone and i never felt offendzd by the sarcasm.


Im ok with that:). It was exciting.

[DreamSurf]

surfing frequently is the basic requirement for learning to surf quickly. Hope you can find a place to do that. I only surf for 30 minutes 2 days a week but I surf in waves that are very often worse than those waves you showed us. I do so because I want to learn to surf and I don't have time to go find better surf so I just go to the beach where I always go which is where I grew up and a mile from my house by the road. I learned to surf originally long ago and got pretty good then quit for 12 years and then started back up after getting overweight and out of shape (and older). It was just like learning to surf all over except I knew what to do. Now I am too busy to surf a lot, on call all the time that I am not working but I love to get out in the ocean and paddle around hoping to get a good wave. It is like my psychotherapist and helps me to unwind from daily stress. I am just happy to still be out there catching waves at my age. I don't need to have a perfect break or perfect waves just a chance to catch some. Airs? I don't know if I will ever do one but I did an couple airdrops off the top of the wave and successfully landed them. I like to turn though and I am still working on developing my turns and I like to go fast and still working on going fast. It will all come to you too eventually just not as fast as you initially thought. Ahhh I see you are learning the important phrases in Spanish another one might be donde es una buena playa para surfear? although my Spanish is not so good so maybe need to figure that one out yourself.

you said it well the spanish thing. yeah that is why i need to travel more. more surfing means more advancements. and my wife might as well enjoy the weather in those countrys. to be honest im not really liking the cold weather. you rather have your shorts on and thats it. i guess at the right spot even with no waves you will find enjoyment in the nature itself. swooooosh.
man that shark discussion got me thinking lately. they are everywhere huh. i red that even in north sea. even tho the species race went from 20 to 3. but they still are there. at least with blue clear sea you can see them.

sometimes when i dive and not seeying anything in that dark brown water makes you insecure of the environment. at least in morocco you can see it all with the sun shining in the deep.
you said at my age. whats your age? do you have kids and how do you manage it? i mean my wife strangely seems ok with the idea to follow me when i decide to live in spain. perhaps she feels guilty cause i married and went to her place and not vice versa.

[saltydog]

Am I the only one confused about seeing "Morocco" and "North Sea" in a same sentence? I didn't think Morocco faced the North Sea... Enlighten me.

[oldmansurfer]

. whats your age? do you have kids and how do you manage it? i mean my wife strangely seems ok with the idea to follow me when i decide to live in spain. perhaps she feels guilty cause i married and went to her place and not vice versa.

I am 62 soon to be 63. The reason I mention it is that if you are younger then it is easier to learn to surf although maybe because I knew how long ago and grew up in the surf it helps me still it seems to me that at my age I have to surf at least once a week or I will be worse than I was the last time I surfed. Surfing once a week I will make small infrequent improvements but surfing 2 times a week and I am slowly but steadily improving. I think if you are young then you can lay off surfing for more than a week and not drop back in your skill level. I have no kids but I am married. Used to have a dog but he died recently. I have a cat. My wife used to surf with me back when we first met. Now on one of the two days I go to the beach she comes along and boogie boards.

[pmcaero]

just to tell you my private side of life. i am very depressive and sad the way i live. i feel empty and sucked soulles.

seems like you are unhappy. Maybe change things? Most important thing is to not give in to pressures from family wife beliefs society, these matter less than yourself. Move somewhere warm and with waves, even if it means a pay cut. Your kid seems small enough to be able to adjust, and tell your wife that if you're happy you'll make her happier too

[DreamSurf]

Am I the only one confused about seeing "Morocco" and "North Sea" in a same sentence? I didn't think Morocco faced the North Sea... Enlighten me.

to clarify yeah. morocco is not on the north sea. i am also not a native speaker so sometimes i talk english in an arabic or dutch way. (direct translation.
morocco 2800 km south of holland. they both look towards west. but holland has the north sea reaching untill england.
and morocco has the atlantic ocean.

[DreamSurf]

. whats your age? do you have kids and how do you manage it? i mean my wife strangely seems ok with the idea to follow me when i decide to live in spain. perhaps she feels guilty cause i married and went to her place and not vice versa.

I am 62 soon to be 63. The reason I mention it is that if you are younger then it is easier to learn to surf although maybe because I knew how long ago and grew up in the surf it helps me still it seems to me that at my age I have to surf at least once a week or I will be worse than I was the last time I surfed. Surfing once a week I will make small infrequent improvements but surfing 2 times a week and I am slowly but steadily improving. I think if you are young then you can lay off surfing for more than a week and not drop back in your skill level. I have no kids but I am married. Used to have a dog but he died recently. I have a cat. My wife used to surf with me back when we first met. Now on one of the two days I go to the beach she comes along and boogie boards.

sweet life . and like you said it is also th fun. 63? man at least you do sports. a good healthy life. sorry about the dog.
the go out of your boundaries thing. which i noticed in my other sports has decreased a bit. but its more because im responsible and i hate to die and leaving them to their thing. time to rebuild i guess.

there is a bruce lee quote
this one goes for me at the moment

If you spend too much time thinking about a thing, you'll never get it done. Bruce Lee
Read more at: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/autho ... e_lee.html

and this is for all of us

If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. Bruce Lee
Read more at: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/autho ... e_lee.html

were going spiritual LOL
but hey there is a core of truth in there.

on your topic:
even though your age i do think it is really nice that you surf. keep the stoke doing what you enjoy and at the same time maintain your health and mental health. i hope when i get to that age that i will have a similar life to maintain as you do. you know in reality there are some who drink booze and get fat bellys.(they are human to and i hope they change their ways) .if you dont sport you will end up looking grandfather. there is just that if you dont sport your skin evolves into a different shape(flabby) and there is no turning back. well you shaped yours good job man. may you live long and in healthy conditions. we need you guys. a lot of knowledge is buried allready unfortunately.

[DreamSurf]

just to tell you my private side of life. i am very depressive and sad the way i live. i feel empty and sucked soulles.

seems like you are unhappy. Maybe change things? Most important thing is to not give in to pressures from family wife beliefs society, these matter less than yourself. Move somewhere warm and with waves, even if it means a pay cut. Your kid seems small enough to be able to adjust, and tell your wife that if you're happy you'll make her happier too

well its with times. but reality is just harsh

advise taken. i have to really change. and money is a necessary tool. but it isnt everything indeed.

[Art]

Interesting thread. You watch those surfers ripping it up and it looks so easy...but like anything the best people make difficult look easy. It's a humbling reality that it takes a number of years to get any good.

But the thing about surfing is because it's so hard, you really savour the small wins you get - and you notice and are stoked by each and every one of the incremental improvements. I've got back into it after many years off about 6 months ago, and every day/every surf is an evolution.

And this is just one opinion, but there are very few magic bullet shortcuts(believe me I have tried them all) - the key is time in the water and just as importantly, wave count and good technique early on. Go to any good break and when the surf is good and a beginner will get 0 waves in the lineup. Find a quiet spot and get 20 waves.

I know I said there are no magic bullet shortcuts, but IMO there are a number of thing I believe you can do to improve out of the water. The is a small value in practising your popup at home, as well as mimicking the crouching and turning motions of bottom turns and linking to top turns- the latter if only for a prompt when you hit the bottom of the wave and go 'oh sh*t' what do I do now' - I believe it makes it bit quicker to get that memory of what to do. Get on youtube and watch good surfers moves in ultra slow motion -frame by frame and mimick it.

Also, one thing I have noticed that has helped are the surfskates. You won't be at that level to get any benefit from them in the surf until you get the paddling, timing, popup and understanding waves down. Even though you're a skater, these are a different beast entirely. They're all about getting technique and generating your own speed. I've seen translatable improvements since I started these. Pumping up a hill on your own steam definitely translates to improvements in the water, because its the same mechanism(its a good workout too). And you can't fake it either - you get the correct technique or you just stop.....What I like about it most though is that shows you how to creates speed in the surf much more quickly than if you were evolving just surfing- and speed is good in the surf because it make is so much easier to get to the top of the wave, around sections etc. I can't wait to see how the breed of surfers who have these carvers at 6 turn out when they are 20.

These are just a few observations from a developing surfer who's probably a few years ahead on the path as you, but has that similar analytical mindset.

[DreamSurf]

do you perhaps mean the carverboard. the surf skate thing? ive seen those. they are 250 euro and very pricy. it is supposed to be the closest to a surfing experience on land

[pmcaero]

do you perhaps mean the carverboard. the surf skate thing? ive seen those. they are 250 euro and very pricy. it is supposed to be the closest to a surfing experience on land

you're the skate expert here, but for me, even a cheap penny board clone seems helpful if used in the same manner as a surfboard, that is, riding more back-footed, looser trunk and using lots of arm swinging to pump and turn.

[DreamSurf]

do you perhaps mean the carverboard. the surf skate thing? ive seen those. they are 250 euro and very pricy. it is supposed to be the closest to a surfing experience on land

you're the skate expert here, but for me, even a cheap penny board clone seems helpful if used in the same manner as a surfboard, that is, riding more back-footed, looser trunk and using lots of arm swinging to pump and turn.

Take a look its a special mechanism in truck

[pmcaero]

Take a look its a special mechanism in truck

I know, I have one, but my point was even a regular skateboard can help

[Art]

do you perhaps mean the carverboard. the surf skate thing? ive seen those. they are 250 euro and very pricy. it is supposed to be the closest to a surfing experience on land

Yep, that's what I meant. Any of the boards with the front truck that moves front to back. When I reread my post it sounded like an ad for the surfskates.. That wasn't my intention - I'm just a big fan.

I'd imagine with the background of high level skating you noted, someone you know in the skate community would have one - might be worth testing out before you consider buying.

[saltydog]

Am I the only one confused about seeing "Morocco" and "North Sea" in a same sentence? I didn't think Morocco faced the North Sea... Enlighten me.

to clarify yeah. morocco is not on the north sea. i am also not a native speaker so sometimes i talk english in an arabic or dutch way. (direct translation.
morocco 2800 km south of holland. they both look towards west. but holland has the north sea reaching untill england.
and morocco has the atlantic ocean.

Okay... that's what I thought. So you are living in Morocco and going surfing in the North Sea??? I guess at least you could consider moving to a more surf-able beach town in either Morocco or near the North Sea area seeing that there are guys here who live in those places and have learned to surf.

As for a Carver Skateboard, they are great but pricy. You can always buy just the trucks and install them on your own deck. Their special front truck (c7) with a spring has a full range of swivels giving that surfy feel. They sell the trucks (front and rear pair) for about half the cost of the whole setup.

BUT at this point you'd probably benefit more from getting wet as often as possible than skating. Hope you can find a solution for that.

[Big H]

Carvers are great.... got one in the back of my car along with a pair of slip on vans and I'll just pull over and ride for a few minutes if I have time................BTW, if you really want to learn to surf Dreamsurf.....I've been surfing 6 times since you last went surfing........when is your next sesh? Talk is great, but just talk in the end.....the core of this whole thing is getting out there.

[Oldie]

I guess at least you could consider moving to a more surf-able beach town in either Morocco or near the North Sea area seeing that there are guys here who live in those places and have learned to surf.

And there are some decent surfers. This is from last weekend, too. Not far away from where Dreamsurf was. All about location. No excuse.

[DreamSurf]

Am I the only one confused about seeing "Morocco" and "North Sea" in a same sentence? I didn't think Morocco faced the North Sea... Enlighten me.

to clarify yeah. morocco is not on the north sea. i am also not a native speaker so sometimes i talk english in an arabic or dutch way. (direct translation.
morocco 2800 km south of holland. they both look towards west. but holland has the north sea reaching untill england.
and morocco has the atlantic ocean.

Okay... that's what I thought. So you are living in Morocco and going surfing in the North Sea??? I guess at least you could consider moving to a more surf-able beach town in either Morocco or near the North Sea area seeing that there are guys here who live in those places and have learned to surf.

As for a Carver Skateboard, they are great but pricy. You can always buy just the trucks and install them on your own deck. Their special front truck (c7) with a spring has a full range of swivels giving that surfy feel. They sell the trucks (front and rear pair) for about half the cost of the whole setup.

BUT at this point you'd probably benefit more from getting wet as often as possible than skating. Hope you can find a solution for that.

very unfortunate i do not live there at the moment. 5 years ago i did and sometimes it may be 2 months or 1 month a year depending on the mana i have. worked for a dutch company called harte hanks in Tangier City i was the system engineer. quit my job due to louche bussiness and late payments. For now i remain in the benelux. but once i go. which will be a 6 weeks vacation. usually around april i go cause the weather is sweet(it always is) but also the growing of green is beautiful. also i have secret spots there full of dolphins chilling there big waves. the one that has the highest waves is city mehdya. i swam there loads of times. very nice and clear water. But that was without the surfboard

i am going to get a carverboard. References mention that it really does simulate a surf feeling. i rode one before . i like it. but as a skater you would say but i rather flip and grind. but with the new thing called surfing i am researching this field which leads me to surfboards and as landlockesd as i am a carverboard.

still i will visit north sea. i feel stoked still and as weird as it ounds i want to stabilize and feel better with the duckdiving and paddling. with paddling comes balance while paddling. its not like you are paddling on a strong volumed fleet(like i said understimated it). your balance is a thing to be learned like biking. when i paddle i surely go forth but i notice on my nps with some waves the surfboard makes it own way. i need to adjust myself to that situation.

the duckdiving was first try good. but it was also kinda like scary. what if it doesnt work well. so i am well aware even tho i did duckdive the good way. but i do not feel confident with it. so i will need to do that more so that it becomes a natural thing. next time ill visit will be i think in twoo weeks without my wife or camera. it will be a long session. cause my first time was 2.5 hours and sunday was 2. and i left the sea with so many question that bothered me. i should have stayed longer cause strangely when i left it i was looking from the window and before the sun fall i saw huge waves. and i just hatemyself for skipping it.

carverboard is on my list. i still have some rare games to sell. and they sell like hotcakes

[DreamSurf]

I guess at least you could consider moving to a more surf-able beach town in either Morocco or near the North Sea area seeing that there are guys here who live in those places and have learned to surf.

And there are some decent surfers. This is from last weekend, too. Not far away from where Dreamsurf was. All about location. No excuse.

looks nice indeed. unfortunate i was working over. and i didnt know it could be that high. can you inform me about when most waves like this appear. or isnt there a algorythm or should we just hope for? cause it would be awesome if this is frequent. surfable waves always good.